[firefox111]

Well, I think that because when I had my first maintenance last year, they put a sticker on the upper left of the windshield that shows Feb/22/2023 as the next scheduled maintenance. But when I called service last month to book for an appointment they refused because mt odo is only 9,020 miles. They said my next free maintenance is at 15,000 and if I need to have oil and filter changed, I have to pay for it! I told them that my Venue is only for errands around town so I may hit that 15,000 in November. Well, they said, Hyundai goes by the miles! Isn’t there a life of the oil and that it needs to be changed after certain time in the engine regardless of miles? I think my low mileage Venue will have only 4 free maintenance in 3 years!

 

[firefox111]

BTW, I don’t like KIA/Hyundai’s oil filter style, IMHO! Isn’t that a primitive style? I remember my dad’s (God rest his soul) Willyz jeep with oil filter canister inside a metal housing on the top side of the engine!

 

[imaddicted2u]

The complimentary maintenance program document says...
When is my next service date and when does it expire?
Each service must be completed within ±1,000 miles of its designated mileage or within ±1 month of the
designated time. Refer to the Normal maintenance scheduled intervals listed in your vehicle Owner’s
Manual

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/content/dam/hyundai/us/com/pdf/assurance/Hyundai%20Complimentary%20Maintenance_2023.pdf

The way I read the maintenance schedule oil changes should be every 12 months or 8,000 miles. (page 8-8)

https://owners.hyundaiusa.com/content/dam/hyundai/us/myhyundai/manuals/glovebox-manual/2022/venue/2022-Venue-Owners-Manual.pdf

 

[justin1138]

Their free service for 36 months is basically for light duty cycle -- driving mostly highway miles. For those like us who do in town driving which falls under severe duty cycle since all the stop and go is harder on a car, we need more frequent oil changes. I just pay for ones in between the free ones. Because I want my cars to last.

Plus for $50 not only do they change oil, but they also do safety check of brakes and such and even wash and vacuum it out. A wash and vacuum costs like $10 even at coin op car wash.

 

[imaddicted2u]

Up here in Canada we are on the severe maintenance schedule out of the gate and no complimentary maintenance program for us. If you follow the severe maintenance schedule for oil changes it would be 6 months or 5000 miles. The table below details what constitutes severe usage.

 

[venue1947]

Up here in Canada we are on the severe maintenance schedule out of the gate and no complimentary maintenance program for us. If you follow the severe maintenance schedule for oil changes it would be 6 months or 5000 miles. The table below details what constitutes severe usage.

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I do my own oil changes and have done so for over 50 years, that way I know what grade and whose oil goes into my vehicles and as well I know what filter is used...granted if the dealership is doing it, then the filters should be the proper ones but as far as oil whose brand is being used, I do not know...the Hyundai Quaker State oil usage I'm sure is a deal with the 2 companies...over the years I've done many things as far as maintenance like shocks and many other suspension items, exhaust, brakes, wheel bearings and many other fixes light starter motors, power steering pumps, fuel filters and one fuel pump, gas tanks and rad replacements both heater and car rads, air filters, wiper blades, light bulbs, power windows and many more...the last time I had to take one of my cars to a garage was about 2 years ago to have the hydraulic clutch cylinders replaced because the car has to be on a hoist and the transmission has to be removed to get at one of them...as far as oil changes I'd say almost all are done time wise, about every 6 months because i don't put on enough mileage.

now I know not everyone can or wants to do the things I do and have to trust the honesty of the dealership or garage you go to...everything on our vehicles have a life expectancy, but these places don't know how you drive and care for your vehicle...as an example things like tires, my 1999 Camaro SS convertible has 60000 kilometers on it...I replaced my original tires in 2011 with Michelin Pilot sport PS2 tires and according to the experts, tires should be replaces every 10 years...now my tires on the Camaro do not have the weight of the car on them for about 5 months of the year because the car is not driven in the winter and the car is on jack stands for that period so that I can run the car for about 5 kilometers once a week because it's on jack stands, that way the wheels and the complete power train is turning thus this keeps all the parts working instead of just sitting for those winter months, and there is no wear on the tires for that period and as well when the car is not driven it is garaged and there is no ultraviolet rays from the sun to rot the tires...now if I took the car to a garage or dealership they would insist on me to replace the tires which would cost me almost 2 grand...my daily drivers tires were always replaced before the tread wear because the sidewalls started cracking from being exposed to the weather 24/7...when you replace tires there's a 99.9999% chance the new tires that go on your car are already at least 1 to 2 years old already and the tire shops will always put on the new tires that have been sitting on their shelves the longest so your 10 years is now much less...this is just an example why I don't go to garages or dealerships unless I really have to...my wiper blades on the Camaro are still the original because how I look after the car and the environment isn't eating away at them and my brakes are still original because I don't beat the hell out of them and I have done a few full bleed of the brake fluid...but of course my daily drivers have had many brake jobs as well as other things because my daily drivers are 20+ years old and are at the mercy of the environment.

The reason for my long winded post is that we owners mostly know when things like oil changes should be done, and time is as important as mileage and if we probably know what condition things like our wiper blades and tires are in for our driving habits...let's face it, the garages don't make their living just doing oil changes and the quick lub places do because they pump oil in your vehicle from a 45 gallon drum of oil that who knows from where and what kind it is, and it's the same for the filters, and they will gladly replace your wiper blades and battery etc. even if you don't need them replaced.

There's one good thing about EV vehicles, there will be less things to be concerned about till the battery life gets to it's retirement age and we'll still have the wiper blade replacement type of things to do and they'll also have required checks.

 

[WL2099]

The app will tell you when you should get your oil change. I tried early for my second one at 13,309 miles and they said no way unless I wanted to pay. I'm waiting for 15000 miles like the app says.

 

[Littlebluenumber]

I had a nice chat with someone who is an auto tech professor at a Community College. His view is that drivers go by their own past experiences, often dating to the 1960s, about maintenance and aren't particularly aware of 21st century manufacturing and materials changes. I don't see his skin in the game; he just wants to produce the savviest techs for the current and near future vehicles. The manual is pretty clear about severe service, but Hundai has, perhaps, a contemporary view of what severe is.
For me, if I'm towing almost anything in a Venue, I'd think I was stretching design limitations.
Yes, at my usage, it'll be a while before that first oil change. I could sneak in one on my tab, though that super duper 0 20w synthetic is likely to hurt
Just my two cents.

 

[venue1947]

I had a nice chat with someone who is an auto tech professor at a Community College. His view is that drivers go by their own past experiences, often dating to the 1960s, about maintenance and aren't particularly aware of 21st century manufacturing and materials changes. I don't see his skin in the game; he just wants to produce the savviest techs for the current and near future vehicles. The manual is pretty clear about severe service, but Hundai has, perhaps, a contemporary view of what severe is.
For me, if I'm towing almost anything in a Venue, I'd think I was stretching design limitations.
Yes, at my usage, it'll be a while before that first oil change. I could sneak in one on my tab, though that super duper 0 20w synthetic is likely to hurt
Just my two cents.

A lot of what we do for maintenance will depend on where we live especially the climate you live in and where and how you'll be using you vehicle...we'll see some of that in what grade and viscosity of oil you should be using...where I live 10W-20 full synthetic is what I should use year round for my Venue...I have the full 4 seasons with temperatures any where from -30 to +30F., of course with the coldest in the winter which will be spread out over about 5 months of winter and of course the hottest in the summer, and these temperatures affect not just the engine but everything, even the paint and body.

where I live I'll be doing my oil/filter changes twice a year around May and the end of October unless I reach the mileage where it should be done, and I will do this where the majority of people in the area where I live will follow the book, so to say...but my daily drivers have always lasted for about 20 or more years and that's the reason for what I do, it might be over kill on my part, but like the old saying, better safe then sorry...as an example, one of the things my year round climate is a factor on is the battery, and I probably put my charger on the battery more then others, but I'll usually get at least 10 years out of it.

Like I say, everyone will do what works for them, and what I do isn't for everyone.

 

[imaddicted2u]

Hyundai oil spec for colder climates is 0W20 full synthetic and oil changes every 6 months or 8000km and is equivalent to the severe service intervals of warmer climates. Cold or hot, the 0W20 flows more easily through the smaller passages and tighter tolerances in today's modern engines and offers a broader temperature range than the thicker 5W30 and 10W30. Hyundai recommends Quaker State brand but any 0W20 API certified full synthetic will do. Best practice is to follow the service recommendations in the owners manual, keep receipts and maintain meticulous service records in case something goes wrong.
I always changed my own oil but as I get older I want to spend less time under and fixing my car, that why I bought a new Venue. By the time you factor in the cost of the oil and filter, it's only a few dollars more to let the dealer do it. Plus they do a multi-point inspection of the car, top up the windshield washer fluid and perform technical service bulletin work as required. If there is ever a warranty claim, having the dealer do the maintenance makes it easy for Hyundai to confirm the maintenance schedule was followed.

Low Viscosity Oil Meets the Needs of Modern Engines: Quaker State Full Synthetic 0W-20 Provides Improved Fuel Economy and Performance

Low Viscosity Oil Meets the Needs of Modern Engines: Quaker State Full Synthetic 0W-20 Provides Improved Fuel Economy and Performance

As engine technology continues to advance, the design of engines in modern cars, SUVs, and pickup trucks has led to the need for lower-viscosity motor oils. Vehicle manufacturers have worked to increase fuel economy through the development of high-efficiency engines that incorporate gasoline...

www.quakerstate.com

 

[justin1138]

I had a nice chat with someone who is an auto tech professor at a Community College. His view is that drivers go by their own past experiences, often dating to the 1960s, about maintenance and aren't particularly aware of 21st century manufacturing and materials changes. I don't see his skin in the game; he just wants to produce the savviest techs for the current and near future vehicles. The manual is pretty clear about severe service, but Hundai has, perhaps, a contemporary view of what severe is.
For me, if I'm towing almost anything in a Venue, I'd think I was stretching design limitations.
Yes, at my usage, it'll be a while before that first oil change. I could sneak in one on my tab, though that super duper 0 20w synthetic is likely to hurt
Just my two cents.

Actually, it's quite clear, as they spell out exactly what severe duty is (like most of us drive, stop and go, short distances) in the manual while light duty is mostly highway driving.

Their free maintenance program just happens to be for light duty. If you're a severe duty driver, you still are getting half your PMs done for free which is cool.

And when you think about it, they really have no interest in seeing your vehicle last beyond the 100,000-mile mark when the warranty is up. The free maintenance is for light duty only, as it will save them millions per year over paying for more frequent oil changes for those of us (the majority) who operate our vehicles under severe duty.

If you follow the severe duty or light duty schedules, the engine will last until the warranty is up. And it's a bonus for Hyundai if the vehicle is then worn out because you followed light-duty oil change intervals when you were really operating it under severe duty conditions. Then you get to buy a new Hyundai or pay for pricey repairs.

Sure the old "every 3k miles interval" is not valid anymore, but stretching it to 10k-15k like some light duty (highway mostly miles) cycles call for is asinine. Go for something in between like 5k-6k unless you truly are in the "light duty" camp -- 85% or more highway miles then follow "light duty" intervals.

Oil does 3 things:
a. lubrication
b. cooling
c. cleaning the engine

 

[venue1947]

Actually, it's quite clear, as they spell out exactly what severe duty is (like most of us drive, stop and go, short distances) in the manual while light duty is mostly highway driving.

Their free maintenance program just happens to be for light duty. If you're a severe duty driver, you still are getting half your PMs done for free which is cool.

And when you think about it, they really have no interest in seeing your vehicle last beyond the 100,000-mile mark when the warranty is up. The free maintenance is for light duty only, as it will save them millions per year over paying for more frequent oil changes for those of us (the majority) who operate our vehicles under severe duty.

If you follow the severe duty or light duty schedules, the engine will last until the warranty is up. And it's a bonus for Hyundai if the vehicle is then worn out because you followed light-duty oil change intervals when you were really operating it under severe duty conditions. Then you get to buy a new Hyundai or pay for pricey repairs.

Sure the old "every 3k miles interval" is not valid anymore, but stretching it to 10k-15k like some light duty (highway mostly miles) cycles call for is asinine. Go for something in between like 5k-6k unless you truly are in the "light duty" camp -- 85% or more highway miles then follow "light duty" intervals.

Oil does 3 things:
a. lubrication
b. cooling
c. cleaning the engine

another nice thing that has changed over the years is the frequency of anti-freeze changes...I read that the Venue's is good for 10 years [120 months] or 200,000 kilometers and of course unless there's other problems that affect having to replace the anti-freeze.

 

[106DeltaDart]

First vehicle that I have owned where the oil change is 1 year or 8K miles. We usually drive our vehicles around 6K miles a year.

 

[Littlebluenumber]

First vehicle that I have owned where the oil change is 1 year or 8K miles. We usually drive our vehicles around 6K miles a year.

I'm also a low mileage driver, so we are both looking at annual oil changes. It just don't feel right. Though it does mean I'll have about 60k on my Venue in 2033 when the warranty goes out.
Maybe I should sign up with Uber to get money to pay for synthetic oil changes every three months.

 

[106DeltaDart]

I'm also a low mileage driver, so we are both looking at annual oil changes. It just don't feel right. Though it does mean I'll have about 60k on my Venue in 2033 when the warranty goes out.
Maybe I should sign up with Uber to get money to pay for synthetic oil changes every three months.

At what mileage do you think you should do a oil/filter change? With our 2016 Versa Note(which I sold last Sunday)had the oil changed at 5K miles. Nissan's warranty is much shorter than Hyundai's The Versa had 38,400 miles on it and got 32-34mpg in city driving. So far(1 tank of gas)with the same driving the Venue is getting 25mpg. I sure hope that improves.

 

[venue1947]

First vehicle that I have owned where the oil change is 1 year or 8K miles. We usually drive our vehicles around 6K miles a year.

my toy is a 1999 Camaro SS convertible with the LS1 engine that I ordered back then, and is one of 64 build for Canada, and I have a little over 60000 kilometers on it, and after about 1500 kilometers of break in, I went with synthetic 5W30 oil because the engine was the same one in the Corvettes, and that's the way they came from the factory, and I always changed it by the time versus the mileage because I never got to the mileage change time by 6 months...the car has never seen a winter, let alone rain because it's always garaged when not driven...over the last 2 years I change it once a year, about November, because I put less then 2000 kilometers on it over a year, and during the winter months it's on jack stands and I run it for about 5 kilometers a week on the jack stands so that everything except the front wheels are run as if it was on the road, and because of the Mobil One Synthetic oil I use, and because the engine being an aluminum LS1, the oil keeps it in excellent running order.

because the engines today and the oils and anti-freeze etc. can get away with the longer times between changes unless they are driven harder and with higher loads then normal then they should be done sooner.

 

[imaddicted2u]

Here in Canada the oil change schedule is 6 months or 8000km/5000mi and we don't get any free oil changes. That's equal to the severe maintenance schedule, for the USA, that I posted above. If you read the severe duty conditions, it appears to apply to just about everyone

 

[QLENFG]

Apparently, at least on the U.S. Limited model, the computer also calculates the need for service. At about 7,000 miles, ours would pop up a message at start-up, giving us miles to service. It worked out to about 450 miles short of 8,000.

Wife took the car in for the first free oil change, and they did the oil, filter, and tire rotation, as well as a video walk-around showing fluid levels, tire wear, brake wear, and cabin / engine filter conditions.

 

[imaddicted2u]

Apparently, at least on the U.S. Limited model, the computer also calculates the need for service. At about 7,000 miles, ours would pop up a message at start-up, giving us miles to service. It worked out to about 450 miles short of 8,000.

Wife took the car in for the first free oil change, and they did the oil, filter, and tire rotation, as well as a video walk-around showing fluid levels, tire wear, brake wear, and cabin / engine filter conditions.

After each service the Tech programs in the next service interval through the instrument cluster display.
If you do your own oil changes, you can change the reminder interval yourself. It is based on time or distance not any oil life calculation. My old Saturn Aura calculated oil life based on the type of driving we did it wasn't time or distance based.
I clipped this from the owners manual: