[Ela]

I expect things may not be quite the same in the States vs Canada, but those who have recently purchased your Venue – what was your experience. Price for the 2023 Venue isn’t available yet but the sales guy guesstimates a 1% increase, based on the Palisade. My car is supposed to be built in Oct and I’m starting to get anxious about the sales process knowing the dealer has the upper hand these days.
Were you able to negotiate on the price? Were you able to get any accessories thrown in lieu of that? (I’m wanting the floor liners).
Were you told you had to pay for the nitrogen tires? Did you have to pay full freight charges?
Also , did you buy the extended warranty?

Thanks

 

[justin1138]

At least in the states, supply is low. Most new cars disappear as soon as they arrive or are pre-sold. That said, it wasn't hard to get the Venue I wanted. They just did a dealer trade with a dealer 100 KM away.

We did have to pay retail -- about $21,500 USD for the '21 Venue SEL. But still better than buying from Carvana. Carvana wants more than retail for a used Venue. To avoid the supposed "horrible" dealership experience. The local dealer was awesome. And since my Venue is new, I get a 10-year powertrain warranty (160,000 KM). You don't get that with a Carvana-used one since the 10-year warranty is only good for the original owner, not 2nd owner.

In Canada, you guys don't have that 10-year warranty. If the dealer can offer something akin to it at a cheap price and it's Hyundai-backed, I'd consider it if I were you. But chances are you won't need it as long as you maintain your Venue well.

I don't think you will have much luck negotiating on price. Supply is low. But the Venue is a cool vehicle with a lot of safety features and the gas mileage is great.

 

[imaddicted2u]

I purchased about a year and a half ago, when there was a selection of cars to choose from on the lot. I did not buy any extended warranty, I'll probably be trading within the 5 year warranty. Why the Canadian Venue doesn't get the 10 year warranty and 3 year free maintenance the USA version gets, is beyond me.
There really wasn't any negotiating and I wasn't trading in another car. I talked the salesman down $500 off the total price. Nothing was thrown in.
I would say nitrogen in the tires is nothing but a gimmick, just tell them you want the regular air, it comes with 78% nitrogen..lol. Nitrogen wasn't mentioned by my salesman.

Should You Use Nitrogen in Your Car Tires?

Consumer Reports uses tests and research to explain the benefits of using nitrogen in car tires and advises whether it is worth putting nitrogen in your car or truck.

www.consumerreports.org

 

[justin1138]

I purchased about a year and a half ago, when there was a selection of cars to choose from on the lot. I did not buy any extended warranty, I'll probably be trading within the 5 year warranty. Why the Canadian Venue doesn't get the 10 year warranty and 3 year free maintenance the USA version gets, is beyond me.

Not sure, but it might be part of the reason why the Canadian version is like $5,000 CAD cheaper than the USA version. I looked up prices for the Canadian Preferred trim and the USA equivalent (SEL), and we pay about $5,000 CAD more ($3,500 USD) more.

With that money difference or less, you could probably extend the factory warranty if you want. I imagine the climate also might have something to do with it. In Canada, more road salt is used compared to the states, so people may not keep cars as long up there? But I imagine y'all know how to clean salt off the underbodies.

 

[imaddicted2u]

I had never compared the currency converted prices before. I see your point but not sure how you are coming up with the numbers.
The Canadian Preferred starts at $24,246 CDN. That converts to $19,031.52 USD. In the USA the SEL starts at $20,750 a difference of $1718.48 USD.

 

[Chicago Jake]

I didn't try to negotiate the price, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have worked if I had tried. They will negotiate when they have excess stock they are trying to unload. But that wasn't the case; they only had two Venues on the lot. Besides, the MSRP was already a great deal, in my opinion.

They did try very hard to get me to purchase some cockamamie fabric protection treatment. I couldn't talk the salesman out of doing his full twenty-minute pitch. I suspect he was required to do it, even though he knew there was no way I was going to go for it.

Never heard of nitrogen tires. As @imaddicted2u mentioned, just plain air is mostly nitrogen anyway, if it has any advantages to speak of.

Here's a good overview:

Should You Use Nitrogen in Your Car Tires?

Consumer Reports uses tests and research to explain the benefits of using nitrogen in car tires and advises whether it is worth putting nitrogen in your car or truck.

www.consumerreports.org

Personally, I'd rather fill my tires with helium, making the car lighter and improve gas mileage. But it might reduce traction! Now my head hurts.

 

[mayo]

Had my local dealer trade for my denim.
Paid sticker 22,500 - 1500 rebate (remember those). Got lucky and traded for the venue just before the market dried up in ‘21.
With supply and demand the way it stands, I wouldn’t count on negotiating.
If you want it, get it cause it will be gone tomorrow.

 

[Essential_22_MT6]

I bought mine on January 2022. I got mine for Sticker price of (Canadian Dollars) $20,024 before taxes; I got a 500 Hyundai Customer discount because we also own a 2016 Elantra GT, that's it.
I Didn't negotiate on Sticker price because it was the Only Essential Trim with 6 Speed Manual Transmission that I could find 'In Stock' anywhere near me within 30 kilometers and I didn;t want to wait 6 months to get one from the factory. A Venue with a Manual Transmission was the only version I was willing to buy. Because of low stock dealers don't have incentives to negotiate, or very little.
The thing in British Columbia, CA we get screwed with a High Sales Tax (12%) for new vehicles and the Insurance rates are high even for drivers like myself with a clean record; so you can negotiate a lower Base Price the better but
Bottom Line, if you don't like the deal walk away.

In regards to current Venue Prices for 2022, I can see the Hyundai Canada Website posts an $800 (Canada dollars) increase base price for the 'Essential' trim from what it was in January 2022 when I made my purchase. That is a 4% increase.

2022 Venue | Models and Features | Hyundai Canada

 

[justin1138]

Had my local dealer trade for my denim.
Paid sticker 22,500 - 1500 rebate (remember those). Got lucky and traded for the venue just before the market dried up in ‘21.
With supply and demand the way it stands, I wouldn’t count on negotiating.
If you want it, get it cause it will be gone tomorrow.

Yep, that was like 4 months before I got my SEL. I paid $500 more for the mid-trim SEL than you paid for your top-of-the-line Denim.

 

[justin1138]

I had never compared the currency converted prices before. I see your point but not sure how you are coming up with the numbers.
The Canadian Preferred starts at $24,246 CDN. That converts to $19,031.52 USD. In the USA the SEL starts at $20,750 a difference of $1718.48 USD.

True, my numbers were off. Mine was $21,500, as I had to pay a destination fee (was at a dealer 200 kilometers away), plus I got some accessories like the cargo kit, first aid kit, roof rails, rear cupholder, etc.

I wonder if Hyundai of Canada offers factory extended warranties? Not that you need/want it since you're only keeping it like 5 years. If one could get one for the difference in price between USA/Canada models, that'd be cool especially if it's a bumper to bumper warranty, as the 10 year/160,000 KM warranty in USA covers the powertrain only. The base warranty here is 5 years and 100,000 KMs and that is bumper-to-bumper.

 

[imaddicted2u]

True, my numbers were off. Mine was $21,500, as I had to pay a destination fee (was at a dealer 200 kilometers away), plus I got some accessories like the cargo kit, first aid kit, roof rails, rear cupholder, etc.

I wonder if Hyundai of Canada offers factory extended warranties? Not that you need/want it since you're only keeping it like 5 years. If one could get one for the difference in price between USA/Canada models, that'd be cool especially if it's a bumper to bumper warranty, as the 10 year/160,000 KM warranty in USA covers the powertrain only. The base warranty here is 5 years and 100,000 KMs and that is bumper-to-bumper.

Our warranty is same as USA base warranty. Hyundai offered me an 8 year/160,000km extended warranty. I think it was something like $2400 to $3200 depending on the package.

 

[justin1138]

Our warranty is same as USA base warranty. Hyundai offered me an 8 year/160,000km extended warranty. I think it was something like $2400 to $3200 depending on the package.

Was that for a bumper-to-bumper warranty? Not really too bad of a price especially if bumper to bumper. With these modern cars, even something relatively simple can cost $2,000 or so. And a new tranny can be $5,000 if it fails. Chances are though with proper maintenance a car should be OK for 160,000 KM at least until something happens. Warranties are a crap shoot -- could pay for themselves with one or 2 repairs and then cover future things too, or you may never need it.

Had a friend last year who needed a new vehicle as hers was rusty and falling apart. I suggested a new Hyundai Venue or Kona or Tucson. She loves my Venue. She went to the dealer and didn't like the payment -- $325 a month to buy. She loved the salesperson though (the same one I used) and the dealership amenities.

She ended up going with a 4-year-old Nissan Sentra with 50k miles for $260 a month. Recently something major on it broke and it cost $3,000 to repair. She isn't mechanical enough to remember what broke on it. But all of a sudden that Nissan (out of warranty) now costs more than the Venue would've been. And she still has 4 years left on payments. And whatever breaks from now on is on her.

 

[imaddicted2u]

$2400 was for power train plan, $3200 was for Premium +, something like bumper to bumper. There were many options for what is covered, length of coverage and mileages. They offer a partial credit if you go claims free.

 

[Ela]

...those who have recently purchased your Venue ...

Thanks for the input everyone. Mine is a factory order. No Preferreds on the lot when in went in late June and factory orders for 2022s were closed. I put down a grand as a deposit, and pretty sure it's non-refundable now that I've heard from Hyundai Canada on the status of my build. I don't think I could walk away and start all over again and I'm commited to the Venue. I'll let you know how things go - hopefully by year end.

 

[venue1947]

$2400 was for power train plan, $3200 was for Premium +, something like bumper to bumper. There were many options for what is covered, length of coverage and mileages. They offer a partial credit if you go claims free.

In Canada they have extended warranty's and I oped out where as maybe in the US the longer warranty already has the extended warranty so maybe that's why the longer warranty is in the US.

I paid cash for my 2022 Ultimate Denim which compared to the US equivalent model, the Limited, the Canadian Ultimate comes with everything and the only options are dealer installed things like mud guards and a block heater which I had installed, and as well the Canadian Ultimate comes with a different grill then what is on the US Venues and the side lights are in the mirrors and other things like the power sunroof and heated mirrors, heated seats and heated steering wheel just to name a few things are all standard on the Ultimate where as some of these things a extra cost options on the Limited in the US which will also affect the prices.

My 2022 Ultimate Denim was $25099.00 [Canadian] and my final cost with the added dealer installed options of the mud guards and block heater plus the normal fees and the freight which was $1825.00 and with our 13% tax, my final cost was $31481.82 [Canadian]...the dealership also was pushing the nitrogen for the tires but I told them I didn't want it because in my small town I doubt there were any gas stations with nitrogen if I needed any, my dealer was at least 30 miles from my home and I wasn't going to drive the 60 mile round trip to get a pound or two of nitrogen for my tires.

I ordered my Ultimate on Jan, 26 and I got it June 13 but I suspect the prices may be higher now and especially for the 2023 models and I suspect at least here in Canada, some models will be as scares as hen's teeth and there are dealers selling used vehicles for as much as their equivalent new models.

Best of luck and hope everything will work out for you.

 

[justin1138]

That isn't bad at all -- only $2,000 CAD ($1,500 USD) more than my mid-trim SEL, and I don't have heated seats/mirrors/block warmer/sunroof/navigation (though I use my iPhone via CarPlay for that).

Plus you don't have a $5,000 CAD deductible for health insurance per year like I have. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

 

[venue1947]

That isn't bad at all -- only $2,000 CAD ($1,500 USD) more than my mid-trim SEL, and I don't have heated seats/mirrors/block warmer/sunroof/navigation (though I use my iPhone via CarPlay for that).

Plus you don't have a $5,000 CAD deductible for health insurance per year like I have. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

I also have the Bluelink that came with the Ultimate that is free for 3 years and I'm an in car CD music lover and was pissed once the manufactures stopped the CD players in vehicles, but I've put a lot of music on 2 128G USB thumb drives and they work great in the Venue so I'm happy with them, I guess I've come out of the dark ages [I'm 75 🤣]...this is the first new vehicle I've bought in 20 years [my vehicles last at least 20 years] and love this car especially getting as much as 50+m/gal...that's Imperial gallon...we're metric up here 🙂

yeah we have a great medical up here and we still have people that don't appreciate it and find any excuse to bitch about it...I and my family have used the system with operations and child births etc. over the years, and not to mention doctor visits, and have never received a bill, and my daughter will be going in soon for a heart operation and we have no worry's about costs...of course our medical in Canada is funded by taxes and what many people don't understand is that people like me who are retired and pay next to no or very low taxes are still covered in the plan.