what mileage for the first oil change?

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justin1138

Discussion Starter · Aug 3, 2021

My '21 SEL has 1,900 miles. My usual thinking on a new car is to get the first oil change at about 1,500 miles and get synthetic oil into the engine and get out the break in oil. But a quick google search quotes someone claming that Hyundai puts special break in oil into their cars at the factory, and they want you to leave it in for 5,000 miles.

Is this true? Also, 90 percent of my driving is small town and local roads driving, so I will change my oil at 3K intervals with synthetic and a quality filter.

I plan on keeping it 10 years, and it will probably be at around the 100k miles mark, so I will get the full Hyundai warranty.

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Chicago Jake

· #2 · Aug 3, 2021

My old Pappy always taught me that a new engine should have its oil changed after the first 1000 miles to "get out the shavings." But now that I'm all grown up and studied engineering, I realize that this is a load of crap. At least with modern engines. The maintenance manual doesn't say anything about a break-in oil change.

But still, it couldn't hurt, and it's a cheap insurance policy just in case. I change my oil around every 3000 miles, but that's only because I only drive 3000 miles in a year, and I don't want my oil to get older than one year old in the car.

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mayo

· #3 · Aug 4, 2021

Changed mine at 2500 for shits and giggles. Dealership sent me a $50 coupon, so I figured why not. Always a good idea with a new engine, and a multi point inspection for the car.
I’ll stay on Hyundai’s schedule from here on out.

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Chicago Jake

· #4 · Aug 4, 2021

mayo said:
I’ll stay on Hyundai’s schedule from here on out.

Yeah, I'm a big believer in following the manufacturer's maintenance schedule, especially for a new car under warranty. No need to give them any reason to welch on their warranty terms.

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mayo

· #5 · Aug 4, 2021

Me too, and since I have this 3 year service deal, I wanted to get a gauge on the service dept where I bought the car. If you can’t pull off an oil change efficiently, you’re not getting by business for the next 3 years. Hell, I will buy a car off anyone, but to service it is another story. ✌🏼

Christian Antalics

· #6 · Aug 4, 2021

justin1138 said:
My '21 SEL has 1,900 miles. My usual thinking on a new car is to get the first oil change at about 1,500 miles and get synthetic oil into the engine and get out the break in oil. But a quick google search quotes someone claming that Hyundai puts special break in oil into their cars at the factory, and they want you to leave it in for 5,000 miles.

Is this true? Also, 90 percent of my driving is small town and local roads driving, so I will change my oil at 3K intervals with synthetic and a quality filter.

I plan on keeping it 10 years, and it will probably be at around the 100k miles mark, so I will get the full Hyundai warranty.

The oil change interval on new cars is too long to my taste, particularly for the first change. I would recommend getting one change at 3K - 5K miles on your own using OEM parts and OEM oil and then the rest through Hyundai on their schedule.

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JessicafromHyundai

· #7 · Sep 10, 2021

Honestly yall and for anyone reading. I first changed my oil at 1k mi and the stuff came out almost black. I preferred to at least know what was in my engine before driving further and in my mind I'm glad I did.
From my experience with previous older Hyundai engines (theta 2 nightmares) and Toyota 10k mi synthetic oil changes consuming oil at 40k mi, I personally do 4k-5k mi 0w20 full synthetic oil changes with Hyundai's branded oil filter (no aftermarket.)
Most Venues will come with HPP complimentary maintenance which generally includes synthetic blend oil change with tire rotation set 7.5k mi apart. These oils will typically be of a wholesale brand or variety (in some cases potentially conventional) pending the dealership/express tech processes, and generally lose a fair amount of their beneficial properties even halfway through that 7.5k. Coming out of the engine in worse shape compared to a reputable branded full synthetic from the same use. (Ask your service dept what oil they use on your next visit to find out as it can vary from dealer to dealer due to local supply.)
Hyundai does differentiate a "severe" use maintenance schedule that a massive number of American drivers fall under without realizing it, which reduce the 7.5k to 5k. It might be worth reading into your driving conditions that may qualify you for that schedule.
The minor dealership upcharge to full synthetic or even buying your own oil for peace of mind, I personally believe is well worth the investment on your $20k+ investment.
Either way you still have a 10yr100k mi engine warranty that applies to manufacturer defect/premature failure on vehicles maintained by their 7.5k oil change standard.
In the end its up for you to decide what's best for you and your needs.

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justin1138

Discussion Starter · #8 · Sep 12, 2021

I scheduled my first oil change for next week. It will have about 2,800 miles on it. I am getting full synthetic oil. I wonder if the service writer will say "um, dude you aren't due until 5k".

Oil does 3 things:

1. lubrication
2. cleaning the engine
3. cooling

Outlaw

· #9 · Dec 20, 2021

I thought the Oil Change intervals were 6 Months or 7500 mile, what ever comes first? I've seen here that some people talked a little about Severe Duty being 5000 miles? what's the difference.. if you only put 4000 miles on your Venue in 6 months it still gets changed for free correct??

imaddicted2u

· #10 · Dec 20, 2021

Here in Canada it's 6 months or 8,000 km and Quaker State 0W20 full synthetic. I got my first at 6 months with about 5000 km on the odometer. No freebie oil changes up here.

justin1138

Discussion Starter · #11 · Dec 20, 2021

Outlaw said:
I thought the Oil Change intervals were 6 Months or 7500 mile, what ever comes first? I've seen here that some people talked a little about Severe Duty being 5000 miles? what's the difference.. if you only put 4000 miles on your Venue in 6 months it still gets changed for free correct??

It's actually 3,750 miles or 6 months for severe duty (stop and go city/town driving, extended idling, etc).

Light duty is highway driving (or mostly highway driving). I do a lot of stop-and-go and idling, so when my car hit 3,500 miles at 4 months I wanted an oil change. The dealer wouldn't give it to me for free. They said the free maintenance only covers light-duty (highway miles), so I could get a free change at 7,000 miles (or is it 7500?).

I guess I could've waited until 6 months for a free oil change, but by then the miles would be close to 6,000. To me, $50 or so for an oil change is chump change. I am planning on keeping it for 10 years.

Light duty (like a lot of highway driving) is 7500 miles or 12 months. If you do have 4,000 miles by 6 months, your dealer might give a free oil change. But my dealer seemed pretty firm at "you have to hit 7k miles for your first oil change". I don't think they take severe or light duty into consideration. When it has 7k, I will take it in for the free oil change.

Also, the Venue requires synthetic oil, so that costs more.

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Outlaw

· #12 · Dec 21, 2021

when I bought mine back in August of this year the salesman only said that for the next 3 years or 7500 mile what ever came first my oil changes was free along with a tire rotation, something the Hyundai offered as a plus, never said anything about this severe duty stuff.. I have about 3200 miles on her right now and about 4 months, they texted me yesterday saying it was a reminder for my first service? I guess I will give them a call and see what's up because I never made a appt and find out about this severe duty crap.. thanks guys

imaddicted2u

· #13 · Dec 21, 2021

There is no mention of "Severe Service" in the owners manual or the warranty document, for Canada at least.
I got a service reminder message a few months after purchase, I think it's an automated reminder. I called and was told to ignore it and schedule my first service at 6 months since I wasn't putting on a lot of mileage.
Here is the maintenance schedule listed in the Canadian owners manual. I figure, if you follow that you fully meet the terms of the warranty. If you feel doing more will make your Venue last longer, that's up to you.

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imaddicted2u

· #14 · Dec 21, 2021

I downloaded a copy of the USA Venue owners manual. It does detail severe usage conditions for USA Venue owners. Seems us Canadian Venue owners are on the severe usage schedule out of the box...5000 miles = 8000 kilometers.

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Chicago Jake

· #15 · Dec 21, 2021

imaddicted2u said:
I downloaded a copy of the USA Venue owners manual. It does detail severe usage conditions for USA Venue owners. Seems us Canadian Venue owners are on the severe usage schedule out of the box...5000 miles = 8000 kilometers.

Hyundai probably thinks just BEING in Canada is severe duty!

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justin1138

Discussion Starter · #16 · Dec 24, 2021

Chicago Jake said:
Hyundai probably thinks just BEING in Canada is severe duty!

Yep, the cold weather and the polar bears and reindeers and the hockey pucks smacking into the sides of one's car. And the Tim Horton's donuts causing passengers to weigh more.

We have Tim Hortons here in Northern Ohio below Ontario. I love Tim Hortons. Way better than Dunkin Donuts.

Wendy

· #17 · Apr 9, 2022

Hello I was wondering I was told to come in later after I went in to get oil change at 3800 miles and was told it was too soon for an oil change to come back between 5000 and 7000 I’m at 5200 and my oil is very dark brown I have it scheduled for about two weeks from now hope it doesn’t damage the engine I think that’s ridiculous under the warranty I should’ve probably just got it done and paid

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justin1138

Discussion Starter · #18 · Apr 10, 2022

Wendy said:
Hello I was wondering I was told to come in later after I went in to get oil change at 3800 miles and was told it was too soon for an oil change to come back between 5000 and 7000 I’m at 5200 and my oil is very dark brown I have it scheduled for about two weeks from now hope it doesn’t damage the engine I think that’s ridiculous under the warranty I should’ve probably just got it done and paid

The way I look at it is that the service adviser isn't the owner of the car. He doesn't really have any interest in keeping the car in great shape so that it lasts 150,000 miles. All he wants is an easy job. Hyundai has free maintenance for 3 years, but it's only for light-duty cycle (mostly highway driving -- like 80% or more). So Hyundai will change it for free at 7,500-8,000 miles.

Most of us don't drive that way. Most of my driving is shorter trips, stop and go, idling, etc., so I fall into the "severe-duty" cycle which calls for oil changes at like 4,000 or so I think. You probably fall into this category too. Especially with the new oil that they put in at the factory, the engine is breaking itself in and creating shavings that end up in the oil. So I wanted my first oil change at 3,000 miles, but I ended up going in at 4,000 miles I think it was which I paid for out of pocket.

Good for you for not listening to the service writer. He just wants an easy job without paying attention or asking customers how their driving is. It's easier for him to just say "8,000 miles and 16,000 miles and 24,000 miles.........". No nuance.

Oil does 3 things:

1. lubrication
2. cooling
3. cleaning metal shavings and gunk out of the engine

Oil changes are way cheaper than major engine work. If you plan on keeping your car for a long time, it's worth it. Plus the local Hyundai dealer washes and vacuums out my car which is like a $20 value. One less thing for me to have to do.

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Wendy

· #19 · Apr 10, 2022

justin1138 said:
The way I look at it is that the service adviser isn't the owner of the car. He doesn't really have any interest in keeping the car in great shape so that it lasts 150,000 miles. All he wants is an easy job. Hyundai has free maintenance for 3 years, but it's only for light-duty cycle (mostly highway driving -- like 80% or more). So Hyundai will change it for free at 7,500-8,000 miles.

Most of us don't drive that way. Most of my driving is shorter trips, stop and go, idling, etc., so I fall into the "severe-duty" cycle which calls for oil changes at like 4,000 or so I think. You probably fall into this category too. Especially with the new oil that they put in at the factory, the engine is breaking itself in and creating shavings that end up in the oil. So I wanted my first oil change at 3,000 miles, but I ended up going in at 4,000 miles I think it was which I paid for out of pocket.

Good for you for not listening to the service writer. He just wants an easy job without paying attention or asking customers how their driving is. It's easier for him to just say "8,000 miles and 16,000 miles and 24,000 miles.........". No nuance.

Oil does 3 things:

1. lubrication
2. cooling
3. cleaning metal shavings and gunk out of the engine

Oil changes are way cheaper than major engine work. If you plan on keeping your car for a long time, it's worth it. Plus the local Hyundai dealer washes and vacuums out my car which is like a $20 value. One less thing for me to have to do.

Wendy

· #20 · Apr 10, 2022

Yes I need it to last 100,000 or more
I have a april 26 appt, but will be 5500 miles
So irritating
Long lines due to no help I’m sure
Thanks next one will go and pay if I have to

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