If either clears fully torqued or it don’t my man. Doesn’t matter by how much with backspace.
Slap them on and get us some pics bro!
Slap them on and get us some pics bro!
I wasn't sure if there may be some very slight flex during cornering, and/or expansion due to the heat of the brakes.If either clears or it don’t my man. Doesn’t matter by how much with backspace.
Slap them on and get us some pics bro!
Stock Venue 17s?Stock 17s
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I was pointing out, mostly for others, that the 205/55/17 listed in the manual is not a direct option tire size when going from 15s to 17s because of the different final gear ratios. I wouldn't have guessed that to be the case until I look at the transmission specs.@imaddicted2u: Thanks for the detailed reply, and I appreciate you trying to be helpful. But believe me, I have already investigated the different outer diameter of the 15 inch tires vs the 17 inch, as well as how Hyundai adjusts the speedometer ratio.
I first began to look into it starting with this post in a thread about wheels. Summary: There are speed sensors that count pulses on the wheel hub, which are sent to the ABS unit. The ABS unit converts this to the speed, and sends it out over the CAN bus, and eventually it gets to the instrument cluster.
In this thread I explained how I put a CAN bus gateway on the network before the cluster, and programmed it to recalculate the speed based on the wheel size.
I think they're 47.What’s the offset on the new wheels bro?
best of luck with getting everything right...I don't have my Venue yet and I have a question, when you jacked up the car did you jack it just at the jack points that Hyundai show for jacking to change a wheel/tire or are there other good safe places to use, I've had many cars over the years and usually use trolley floor jacks and usually jack on good frame positions...thanks.Something else that crossed my mind. When you put on a larger diameter tire on and correct the speedometer the revs per mile of the new wheel/tire will be lower so RPMs will run lower and that can affect the tuning of the engine. I'm thinking that's why they engineered in a different final drive ratio into the transmission mated to 17" wheels. To keep the RPMs in the same engine power band and it likely keeps the speedometer calibration the same across the model line. Will it be enough of a difference that it matters, I don't know. Just throwing it out there.
I didn't use the lift points. Up front I jacked using a floor jack using the lower control arms. In the back I used the axle close to the wheel hubs. Didn't use jack stands as I wasn't getting under it, it was wheel off, wheel on. Hoping to never have to get under this car.best of luck with getting everything right...I don't have my Venue yet and I have a question, when you jacked up the car did you jack it just at the jack points that Hyundai show for jacking to change a wheel/tire or are there other good safe places to use, I've had many cars over the years and usually use trolley floor jacks and usually jack on good frame positions...thanks.
I never thought of this, but it makes sense. I have no idea if this will cause a noticeable, seat of the pants difference, or not. My guess is it won't, as I have searched many wheel/tire threads about speedometer calibration but never saw anyone talking about gear ratios. And a quick search now shows the topic being discussed in the context of massive pickup trucks, where they upsize by a lot more than the 1.4 inches difference in the Venue's tire sizes.Something else that crossed my mind. When you put on a larger diameter tire on and correct the speedometer the revs per mile of the new wheel/tire will be lower so RPMs will run lower and that can affect the tuning of the engine. I'm thinking that's why they engineered in a different final drive ratio into the transmission mated to 17" wheels. To keep the RPMs in the same engine power band and it likely keeps the speedometer calibration the same across the model line. Will it be enough of a difference that it matters, I don't know. Just throwing it out there.
I don't know what the manual says, but I used the cutouts in the plastic body panel for my jack points. You can see them in this photo:best of luck with getting everything right...I don't have my Venue yet and I have a question, when you jacked up the car did you jack it just at the jack points that Hyundai show for jacking to change a wheel/tire or are there other good safe places to use, I've had many cars over the years and usually use trolley floor jacks and usually jack on good frame positions...thanks.
I only mention it because, if it made no difference why would they put out 2 gear ratios for the manual, 4.267 for 185/65/15s and 4.563 for 205/55/17s and 3.706 and 3.957 for the IVT. Rule of thumb is to keep the diameter close to the stock tire size. The gear ratio is a physical thing so it's a given there will be a change in RPM, doesn't matter if it's a car or a truck. Will it hurt power, driveability or fuel economy, I can't say because I've never done it. All you can do is try it, you'll know pretty quick if it hurts you.I never thought of this, but it makes sense. I have no idea if this will cause a noticeable, seat of the pants difference, or not. My guess is it won't, as I have searched many wheel/tire threads about speedometer calibration but never saw anyone talking about gear ratios. And a quick search now shows the topic being discussed in the context of massive pickup trucks, where they upsize by a lot more than the 1.4 inches difference in the Venue's tire sizes.
Those are the jack points the manual says to use when lifting with a hoist and the included jack. I usually put my jack stands there if I was to be getting under it. I try to lift close the the wheels when changing tires because they come off the ground quicker.I don't know what the manual says, but I used the cutouts in the plastic body panel for my jack points. You can see them in this photo:
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I also have some rubber jack stand pads that have a groove for that ridge along the bottom of the car to rest in.
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying it wouldn't make any difference at all. I just meant that I don't think it will be a noticeable difference. Maybe it will, but my guess is that it's not significant enough of a difference to really feel it while driving.I only mention it because, if it made no difference why would they put out 2 gear ratios for the manual, 4.267 for 185/65/15s and 4.563 for 205/55/17s and 3.706 and 3.957 for the IVT. Rule of thumb is to keep the diameter close to the stock tire size. The gear ratio is a physical thing so it's a given there will be a change in RPM, doesn't matter if it's a car or a truck. Will it hurt power, driveability or fuel economy, I can't say because I've never done it. All you can do is try it, you'll know pretty quick if it hurts you.
I did find this that discusses the potential impacts, especially when it comes to low torque engines.
Do larger tires improve gas mileage?
Changing the diameter of a vehicle's tire can impact its overall weight and performance including acceleration, braking and fuel economy.www.dunntire.com
You are probably right but my guess is, if it didn't matter they'd have one gear ratio and adjust the speedometer in software. As long as you are happy with the end result is all that matters. Let us know how you make out.Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying it wouldn't make any difference at all. I just meant that I don't think it will be a noticeable difference. Maybe it will, but my guess is that it's not significant enough of a difference to really feel it while driving.